By all means !windgat wrote:// Lets keep a healthy skepticism, yes, but also, lets not close our minds to the possibility of someone somewhere making a breakthrough sometime in the future.
You can blame that to "the social ineptness of the engineers".Greystoke wrote:Finally, as far as I am concerned:
I am a graduated Masters engineer from the University of Delft, the Netherlands, and I refuse to be associated with charlatans.
At the present level of our knowledge, such a thing is impossible, and that a layman will discover quantum effects that will make it posssible is highly unlikely to the extent of near impossibility.windgat wrote:// But that some quantum effect is discovered which allows a 'perpetual motion' machine to run... I can't feel the same confidence that such a thing is impossible.
Indeed, but science is moving into realms that become more and more difficult to understand for the uneducated. Layman discoveries/inventions have become fewer and fewer.windgat wrote:// Scientists have again and again been surprised, shocked and outraged by new discoveries... and then after some years they have become mainstream thought.
You'd be surprised to see the amount of innovation that goes on among our young scientists. It's the very reason why technology develops at leaps and bounds. These days you don't go out there to do a Wright brothers flying machine invention. That was 100 years ago. Today, you study science, and THEN make a name for yourself.windgat wrote:// a human tendency to become attached to our ideas, so much so that we can be irrational when presented with new evidence.
Greystoke wrote:At the present level of our knowledge, such a thing is impossible, and that a layman will discover quantum effects that will make it posssible is highly unlikely to the extent of near impossibility.
..., but science is moving into realms that become more and more difficult to understand for the uneducated. Layman discoveries/inventions have become fewer and fewer.
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